tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post5877640955504788916..comments2012-09-18T18:21:22.150-07:00Comments on Seattle Center Arena Reboot: Locally collected Tax Inches Closer to King County's ControlMr Bakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-91630670545004941522009-04-13T18:59:00.000-07:002009-04-13T18:59:00.000-07:00Public pressure.
The mayor announced cuts to capi...Public pressure.<br /><br />The mayor announced cuts to capital spending, that impacts the arts folks too, this was on King5 news too.<br /><br />Hopefully this will encourage people, other than sports fans to be more public.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-60072638898834516562009-04-01T11:05:00.000-07:002009-04-01T11:05:00.000-07:00'Bout time for another thread eh, Mr. B?'Bout time for another thread eh, Mr. B?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-66196039228962971802009-04-01T11:04:00.000-07:002009-04-01T11:04:00.000-07:00Well I pretty much thought that with the state lay...Well I pretty much thought that with the state laying off teachers and all these cuts to education that I'd just try to blot all this negativity away but once again here comes the Fed:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033104165.html?hpid=moreheadlines<BR/><BR/>How is it possible for the legislature to adjourn as scheduled with the this money coming in? They have to make adjustments whenever funds have been released.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-19870890810099960022009-03-31T22:15:00.000-07:002009-03-31T22:15:00.000-07:00btw,baker have you had any contact with ross hunte...btw,baker have you had any contact with ross hunter or anybody in the leg lately? all this pause on this bill(6116) is just worrying me.Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-83969658488798186342009-03-31T22:14:00.000-07:002009-03-31T22:14:00.000-07:00Anon, I do not think 6116 has that problem, 2252 d...Anon, I do not think 6116 has that problem, 2252 does.<BR/>6116 has the word arena, and the funds, King County gets that power and rdvenue and puts KeyArena to that revenue and I think we are good. I do not know if they would have to tie those two things, state funding for "arenas" and King County declaring that KeyArena is the arena, doesn't matter, approve funding and I think things move pretty quickly and King County would support that.<BR/><BR/>The greater points they are trying to make is that what Seattle does can be done within the taxes collected within the city (the rest of the county is not impacted) and making a case to use that revenue and not have it skinned off for something else(claiming their's). I really do think, as I have said here many times, are after a funding source for the site.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-67210878058899140542009-03-31T19:59:00.000-07:002009-03-31T19:59:00.000-07:00Peter, they are often mixed as one thing, but they...Peter, they are often mixed as one thing, but they are not even the same bucket of money, and it is not available for a couple years.<BR/>The state, unlike a capital project, does not borrow money against future revenue for the operating budget. There isn't any actual money to take right now.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-80229428620032701822009-03-31T19:19:00.000-07:002009-03-31T19:19:00.000-07:00Isn't one of the problems with 6116 that, in i...Isn't one of the problems with 6116 that, in its present form, it's not specific enough to meet the settlement agreement with Clay? The city sure seems to be admitting that, instead asking for 75m to be directed, as opposed to just being an option out of many. the problem with that, IMO, is that it pits Key against every other potential usage of the money, because if there is specific money set aside for, say, Key, the Huskies demand their set aside, the Mariners & Seahawks demand a set aside for future capital improvements to their stadiums, etc., etc., etc. I saw on the soniccentral blog that you are still optimistic. Why? I just don't see it happening in the face of everything else facing the state, county and city at this point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-4356511672080619672009-03-31T18:46:00.000-07:002009-03-31T18:46:00.000-07:00so what do you think about the "no money for sport...so what do you think about the "no money for sports and culture when there are budget cuts" stuff?Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-7672504173372550642009-03-31T17:46:00.000-07:002009-03-31T17:46:00.000-07:00I think it is a fact that giving an unending tax t...I think it is a fact that giving an unending tax to the county is something that is not liked in the bill. <BR/>My guess is that while covering the testimony on the budget bill in the Ways and Means Committee the reporter asked about these bills and got that reaction.<BR/>Remove the excuses.<BR/><BR/>Note that he did not say it was dead, just what somebody does not like.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-13784674896134268592009-03-31T16:31:00.000-07:002009-03-31T16:31:00.000-07:00so do you think the article i mentioned has any fa...so do you think the article i mentioned has any fact to it, or is it just crap journalism?peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-3775170723875307132009-03-31T12:54:00.000-07:002009-03-31T12:54:00.000-07:00Or, it says the bill can not be unending, amend th...Or, it says the bill can not be unending, amend the bill with a legislature controlled sunset provision for taxes not allocated to bond repayment, subject to review by legislature in 2015.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-31237916791836135092009-03-31T11:55:00.000-07:002009-03-31T11:55:00.000-07:00http://www.thenewstribune.com/callaghan/story/6936...http://www.thenewstribune.com/callaghan/story/693621.html<BR/><BR/>this article really puzzles me. it basically says we don't have a chance.Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-37661103776275698772009-03-29T15:15:00.000-07:002009-03-29T15:15:00.000-07:00Yes, I read your blog, I watch TVW, I read the bil...Yes, I read your blog, I watch TVW, I read the bills, I watch C-SPAN, but not the Seattle Channel (too much fluff), though I do watch the council meeting webcasts, and the Parks and Seattle Center sub-committee meeting (sorry about the shitty email back in January, right before the Storm vote, to you Tom Rassussen).<BR/><BR/>I have no idea who actually reads this blog, though the past couple months I have had far more page views (lots of lurking). I use the google ads as a poor-man's people counter, I have yet to get a dime, and that's not why I am here.<BR/><BR/>But I digress.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-53607868158408101302009-03-29T15:03:00.000-07:002009-03-29T15:03:00.000-07:00Close, this is part of shifting taxing authority t...Close, this is part of shifting taxing authority to the local jurisdiction, in this case King County.<BR/><BR/>The "problem" is that much of unicorporated King County wants the services of a city without having to pay taxes that acity has the authority to impose. When things are good those places do ok, and their taxes are pretty low, when things are bad there is no way the county can respond to the increase in demand for services, and in fact, they face having to chop more.<BR/>The "solution" is to give some city-style taxing authority to the county to promote unicorporated areas and cities to incorporate where it makes economic sense.<BR/>Then the county is left with the bits that really are rural, and really do require a minimum amount of civilization.<BR/><BR/>Read:<BR/>www.rosshunter.com/?p=223<BR/><BR/>Ross Hunter really does go all out on shifting uthority and control to the lowest level possible. What is good theory for the county is good for the city, locally collected taxes staying local for locally controlled investment. <BR/>He really would prefer that taxes collected in Seattle stay here, if you follow the bigger picture he is presenting.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-30235654685955169472009-03-29T14:15:00.000-07:002009-03-29T14:15:00.000-07:00Hey Mr. B, what do you make of this:http://seattle...Hey Mr. B, what do you make of this:<BR/><BR/>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008942273_kingbudget29m.html<BR/><BR/>Could be another piece to a funding puzzle possibly?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-23007700820382044692009-03-28T19:32:00.000-07:002009-03-28T19:32:00.000-07:00oops, today is day 76, 29 days to go.oops, today is day 76, 29 days to go.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-71772621800494583972009-03-28T17:56:00.000-07:002009-03-28T17:56:00.000-07:00Oh, yes, today is day 77 of the 105 day session.Wa...Oh, yes, today is day 77 of the 105 day session.<BR/>Ways and Means is working double-time this week, I expect they work the weekends before they think about OT.<BR/><BR/>A 10 day special session? Don't know how they get done on time.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-11992661992001734492009-03-28T17:45:00.000-07:002009-03-28T17:45:00.000-07:00wow, that's crazy, not the stimulus, you, or your ...wow, that's crazy, not the stimulus, you, or your Senator supporting 6116, but the comments by readers at the end of that story from the News Tribune.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, that $10 billion is not in direct funding to state government, anymore than every penny of tax break I will see in my paycheck starting in April (it just feels like it sometimes).<BR/><BR/>More money will be in the state then the State of Washington itself is losing in revenue. <I>They</I> are going to be short a few billion. <BR/>Some of that $10 billion is counting the tax breaks in paychecks.<BR/>So, State government will still have to make big cuts, but the state+federal net effect will be a positive.<BR/>Good for that, the loss of private econmonic input will still put the state economy in a hole, businesses closing, laying off employees, short-term lending for otherwise profitable businesses getting harder to get.<BR/><BR/>Glad to hear your Senator is in support of 6116, I guess we all have to remember that when she asks for Tacoma Dome help in the future, and the 5 million Tacoma wants for its baseball <B>stadium</B> this session.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-39087442483260970552009-03-28T15:10:00.000-07:002009-03-28T15:10:00.000-07:00This is amazing how this federal stimulus stuff wo...This is amazing how this federal stimulus stuff works for our state: Initially we're expected a 6 billion shortfall for '09-'11, so our project federal stimulus money comes to about 7 billion. Now that our shortfall totals to 9 billion well wouldn't you know it the fed went through the couch cushions and it looks like our stipend comes out to 10 billion. "What a country." Anyway, I haven't any new developments of late. My State Senator---The honorable Debbie Regala is in agreement with the auspices of 6116 which gives me some hope that the state senate is trying to grasp the big picture at least. What day are we into the session anyway? The way the federal money is coming in and the stone silence with regard to the legislature hammering out a budget gives me pause to believe that this session may go into overtime. Just saying. <BR/><BR/>http://www.thenewstribune.com/topstories/story/690953.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-12797106452812245702009-03-28T10:13:00.000-07:002009-03-28T10:13:00.000-07:00King Solomon's solution was to "split the baby", b...King Solomon's solution was to "split the baby", between two mothers claims to one child. Rather than split the baby, thereby killing it, the true mother protests the loudest to the terrible solution, the protest identifys the true mother to Solomon and the baby then was given to its rightful home.<BR/>That story has been told by others much better than I just did.<BR/><BR/>In my story the baby is a bill that has been voted on by both sides of the legislature (you don't get a bill turned into law any other way).<BR/>The House half of the baby-bill was passed to the Senate Ways and Means committee for its other genes (stay with me here, father's eyes, mother's sunny disposition). The House and Senate baby is passed back to the House to resolve the changes the Senate made to it its half of the baby.<BR/><BR/>Splitting the baby-bill at this point could kill it (it would not be the first time Frank Chopp killed somebody's baby-bill). There may not be legislative time to pass the baby-bill back to each side of the house until a baby-bill is reconciled.<BR/>The Senate had one and a-half ours of testimony (complaining the loudest).<BR/><BR/>My guess is that the bill that emerges is the one that passes, though the nutty rules of the legislature may mean that a bad baby-bill is agreed to by the Senate so they can alter it with amendments on the legislative floor (this happens a lot, and more than they like, vote the amendments, then vote the actual bill, messy).<BR/><BR/>There is likely more delay, the Ways and Means committee doubled its meetings for next week just to resolve the state's budget bill.<BR/>I suggest leaving them alone for a few days.<BR/><BR/>(define, explain, apply, that's for you Dr. J - not THAT Dr. J)Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-56711033911321532152009-03-27T23:03:00.000-07:002009-03-27T23:03:00.000-07:00what would the easier way to pass leyarena, alteri...what would the easier way to pass leyarena, altering 2252 or substituting 6616?peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-34618099885408385792009-03-27T22:59:00.000-07:002009-03-27T22:59:00.000-07:00what do you mean by "splitting the baby."?what do you mean by "splitting the baby."?italianpetenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-36437890626496996762009-03-27T22:57:00.000-07:002009-03-27T22:57:00.000-07:00why do you say if "arenas stay in"? is there anyth...why do you say if "arenas stay in"? is there anything going on that could take that out? if this is a long term tax plan, dosen't "arenas" have to be there for showare center?Italianpetenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-64597160480348492782009-03-26T15:33:00.000-07:002009-03-26T15:33:00.000-07:00love this blog - keep doing what you do!love this blog - keep doing what you do!GoTimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09082036384664498856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7180836226665074114.post-35437348167885914922009-03-25T20:47:00.000-07:002009-03-25T20:47:00.000-07:00Ways and Means Committee meetings this week have b...Ways and Means Committee meetings this week have been canceled, the senate and house are trying to reconcile the two versions of the legislature's budget.<BR/>They are busy.<BR/>Next week 4 meetings have been set with blank agendas.<BR/>Hopefully the important stuff is resolved by Tuesday, the Senate is ready now, Frank Chopp is not ready. Caucus meetings are going to go through the weekend.Mr Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552952081148985135noreply@blogger.com